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20 March 2011 @ 04:18 pm
Future for lgbtfest  
In the previous modly post, knittinggoddess left the following comment:
I understand!
In that case, if anyone has interest in co-moderating a new comm, leave a comment to this one.
In the interest of having a "clean" entry with comments only about this subject, I thought I'd made a separate post for it.

I'm definitely interested and even thought of a new name. What about "lgbtfestforward"?

So ... who would like to get together to talk about how a new community could operate without putting a huge burden on its mods.

I'm definitely in.
Let's talk about it.
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my mother is a fucking saint: audra | four for youlittle_missmimi on March 20th, 2011 08:22 pm (UTC)
I would definitely love to help out in some way, but I can't commit to co-modding due to a busy schedule.
Helenka: Brokeback Mountain-Viewhelenkacan on March 21st, 2011 12:13 am (UTC)
Hey, I'm sure there'll be room for lots of varying degrees of involvement. So thank you for responding!
BEWARE OF JENMAR.: Gay Agendaclex_monkie89 on March 20th, 2011 08:36 pm (UTC)
I might be interested in co-modding this.
a DJ who lived in seclusionknittinggoddess on March 20th, 2011 11:05 pm (UTC)
Do you have any opinions about how it should or should not be structured? What do you want to keep the same about lgbtfest, and what might be a useful change?
(no subject) - clex_monkie89 on March 20th, 2011 11:45 pm (UTC) (Expand)
a DJ who lived in seclusionknittinggoddess on March 20th, 2011 08:48 pm (UTC)
Hey, good idea.
So, where_no_woman has a pretty in-depth tagging system, and clear rules about what is and what is not allowed in comments or posts. Posting and membership are moderated, in a large part to avoid spam.

Most of the time there are just individuals posting fic and links to fic. Every few months they'll have a post devoted to open prompts that anyone can grab and fill at their leisure. If they do have deadlines, nobody's tracking down the procrastinators or making a big deal over empty fills. There are also sporadic mod posts on a theme, like the recent International Women's Day post, with short fills in the comments. In a recent mod post reaffirming goals of the comm, a mod said that she had to delete only a few off-topic fic.

I'm a little worried that a comm focused on lgbtq themes would attract more trolls than where_no_woman does. Any ideas about that besides moderating membership/posts and disabling anonymous commenting?
sock_de_puppet on March 20th, 2011 09:22 pm (UTC)
I'm a little worried that a comm focused on lgbtq themes would attract more trolls than where_no_woman does. Any ideas about that besides moderating membership/posts and disabling anonymous commenting?

Honestly, that sounds terrible.

Part of the reason why I loved lgbtfest so much is the aspect of community that it fostered. (Which is why I'm so sad to see it shut down so abruptly) Having moderated membership and worse, moderated posting, absolutely destroys that sense of community.

Any effort to go forward should be modeled after *this* community, not another one.

I'll also be honest and say that I like the fest aspect of this community. That's what I want to see going forward, not just a community where people can randomly post whatever they want to write.

Yeah, yeah, it's hard, and it takes up time. That's why you pick up several mods and do it as a group, not taking it on as a solitary measure. Having a community where we just post stories that we write kind of defeats the purpose. I can do that any time of the year.
(no subject) - knittinggoddess on March 20th, 2011 09:39 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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Helenka: Glee-Kurt/Blaine first kisshelenkacan on March 20th, 2011 09:25 pm (UTC)
And, yet, for me it was specifically the lgbtq focus that made it so important ... so vital (if not for the hope of increasing understanding, tolerance and eventual acceptance in the world of mundanes at large, then at least for giving us our own "safe space" for self-expression and solidarity ... or even just the option of asking "what if character X were lgbtq" and seeing authors' uniquely creative interpretations).

I would hate to lose that urgency only for the sake of avoiding trolls. If that means moderating memberships/posts or disabling anonymous commenting (which I've never been a fan of ... unless it's about sensitive RL issues for which anonymity is a respectful acceptance of privacy and autonomy), then it's worth it.

I certainly love the concept of a wide tagging system as well as occasional themes. I belong to a couple of comms in the sga fandom that operate in similar ways.

What about rotating modly duties ... or - at the beginning before there's any significant volume - just having whoever of the mods has more time on their hands to Just. Do. It.

In any case, I'm going to go visit the comm you mentioned to get a wee bit of an idea of how it's set up.

TTYL
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Seiberwingseiberwing on March 20th, 2011 09:53 pm (UTC)
Random: Why do we need to start a new comm? Why not just have the old mods hand over the comm to new mods?
a DJ who lived in seclusionknittinggoddess on March 20th, 2011 09:55 pm (UTC)
Because penknife would prefer to put the community to rest, according to an explanation in that modly post. I'm not entirely sure why, maybe something to do with tying loose ends and such.
roserose71 on March 20th, 2011 09:53 pm (UTC)
Thanks for posting this and starting the discussion! I would love to help out, if I can make it work with my busy schedule. I'd potentially be interested in joining a rotating group of mods. Or, if there are enough people able to commit to full-time modding, I'll definitely cheer them on, and try to help publicize the new comm. I like the lgbtfestforward name!
Helenka: SGA-Rodney bathhelenkacan on March 21st, 2011 12:19 am (UTC)
Yay! I love an enthusiastic response no matter what degree of involvement is needed. I'm sure we'll eventually get a few concrete ideas out for consideration.

And ::counts on fingers:: your vote in favour of the name "lgbtfestforward" has been duly tabulated!!!
tree00faerytree00faery on March 20th, 2011 11:00 pm (UTC)
I'd also be willing to help out - not sure I'd have time to co-mod if there's only one or two other people, but if it's a group effort I'd love to lend a hand. I loved LGBTFest and I think fandom in general needs something like it.
a DJ who lived in seclusionknittinggoddess on March 20th, 2011 11:03 pm (UTC)
Excellent. What in particular did you like about it? What parts of the setup do you not want to change?
Sophinisba Solis: gwen by infinitesunrisesophinisba on March 21st, 2011 12:20 am (UTC)
Hi! I'm happy to see people talking about a new comm because I've gotten so much out of lgbtfest.

Personally I would really love it if the comm were open to other fanworks like podfics, art, and vids. I understand if that's not the way the new mods want to go but I think it would make it a welcoming place for more fans. Good luck with everything!
a DJ who lived in seclusionknittinggoddess on March 21st, 2011 12:46 am (UTC)
My only hesitation with other media is that I haven't seen it tell a story very thoroughly, only a snapshot of a character, and so don't know how well the media would lend itself to fulfilling the prompt. I wouldn't be opposed to prompts specifying other formats as an option or requirement, so long as other prompts could specify that the fill had to be prose. I would LOVE to see a comic or graphic novel fill! There was a wonderful Calvin and Hobbes fic last year that would have been even better if it was told in comic strip format.

And if you have an example of a fanvid that truly does tell a story, I'd happily enjoy it once I get to a faster internet connection.
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